Helpfull Information
First and foremost let me start by saying PLEASE,
DO NOT let your buck(s) and does live together. If you do, you will have no control over breeding and will have no idea when
to expect kids. Because of this you will be unable to give the doe proper prenatal care and also will have no idea when she
is due to kid. You will be unable to prepare and you will risk loosing babies. Our bucks and does live very happy, separate
lives, and only meet each other when we take them on "dates".
A goat kid of either sex can be fertile at 7 weeks
of age (though they should not be bred at that age). Intact bucks and does over 8 weeks of age should not be kept together
because a young buck can, and will, breed a female at 2 months of age, this includes his mother and 2 month old sister!
Can I keep a buck as a pet?
We don't recommend keeping a bucks as a pet because of their
bucky characteristics. Wethers make excellent pets, but in our own opinion, bucks do not. This
is because wethers never develop "bucky" characteristics. Bucks are totally different animals than wethers and does.
It may be hard for you to believe that your cute little buckling will change, but take my word for it, he will.
If you decide to keep a buck as a pet, that is your decision,
but please read the information supplied below first and be prepared. I provide this information because I truly CARE about
bucks (as I care deeply for all animals). I know that in some cases of a buck being kept as a pet, he may eventually become
unwanted because of his bucky characteristics, that his owner had no idea about. He may then be "discarded" and this poor,
loving boy, gets taken to the auction and/or eventually getting "tied out" alone somewhere to live a lonely sad life. This
is a scenario I would like to help avoid.
What are the "bucky" characteristics?
Smell: As your buck grows he will
develop a distinctive odor. Many people find it a bad smell, others don't find it that bad, they just find it strong. The
odor will not be quite so bad the first year, and you may say, "This isn't so bad. My buck is not going to smell so much."
But as he gets older, the smell will strengthen and eventually you may not want to touch your buck, because the smell will
get on your hands and clothes (and everything else). A drawback to this is a friendly buck will want you to pet him and you
will get the smell on you. We have gotten used to it, but you will definitely want to wash your hands and change clothes before
going out in public after petting your buck.
Does and wethers (neutered males) do not develop a smell like
bucks do. It is bucks and their smell that have given all goats a "bad rap" for smelling. If you keep your buck with your
does (not recommended) the buck smell will get on the does, and if you milk the does, it can get in their milk.
Urinating: As bucks mature and go into
rut, the male equivalent of heat (in the Fall), they will start peeing on their front legs and faces. They have a kind of
"spray attachment" on the penis and can really spray. He will spray his urine into his mouth and then curl up his lip to get
a good whiff. His legs, face and beard will eventually be coated with a sticky layer of urine (irresistible to a doe). Once
rut is over (in the Winter) he may, or may not, stop peeing on himself.
One drawback to this urinating is that if you spend time around
the buck when he is in this habit, you could possibly get sprayed on as well (time to change your clothes again).
Aggression: As a buck matures, he will
get more aggressive. This is natural. Even the sweetest, most well behaved buck may challenge you, as well as his companions,
from time to time (usually during breeding season). The larger the buck grows, the more dangerous this can potentially be.
You must always make sure that your buck knows that you are boss as early as possible. A wether will not typically develop
the aggression of a buck. Note that not all bucks become dangerously aggressive. We have only had one dangerous buck. Mostly
our boys are just extremely stinky sweethearts, who would not think of hurting us (on purpose) but we still treat them with
caution and respect during rut.
Other habits: As he goes into rut, your
buck will want to make sure all his equipment is in proper working order, so he will be ready at a moment's notice to breed
a doe. He will get erections quite often. He will check himself with his mouth (yes, he will be able to reach).
A buck will practice his sexual technique on his male companions.
He may also try to practice on you if you are not careful. He may not intend to hurt you, but you should be very careful when
you are around a buck in rut. |
In their defense...
If you have the space, are physically capable of handling them,
and do not mind "their funky ways" bucks can be quite amusing. We love our bucks very much. They are great, friendly and funny,
but we also have 20 does to be serviced, so keeping bucks (we have three) makes financial sense for us.
Buck Behavior:
Bucks have their own special way of getting the ladies in the
mood. Along with their smell and peeing habits (discussed above) they also have some certain behaviors that may seem odd,
especially if you have never seen it before. These mannerisms are most often exhibited toward the doe in heat, but because
breeding and dominance can be so closely related, you will also see does and wethers, as well as bucks asserting their dominance
over each other (or you) by exhibiting these traits. Also, does in heat will exhibit these traits and we call this "acting
bucky".
These mannerisms are totally normal and the buck may try them
on you as well as a doe. When a buck is "in the mood" he doesn't always care what sex or species he tries to breed. If a buck
exhibits these traits at you, he may have a crush on you and you should be careful that he doesn't try to mount you when you
aren't looking.
- Tongue flapping- The buck will
lower his head and flap his tongue at the side of the doe (or you).
- Leg pawing - The buck paws at
the side of the doe with a straightened leg. This is usually done at the same time as tongue flapping.
- Blubbering- This is done toward
the doe (or you); it can can be done in conjunction with leg pawing and tongue flapping.
"Should I keep him a buck or wether him" and "Should I
buy that buck" Q&A:
When do a really need to get a buck?
We recommend, for most cases, that you hold off on getting your
own buck until you have at least 6 does (depending on your particular situation, of course). Generally, this is really the
only time a buck really approaches paying for himself. Remember, most of the year, he is doing nothing but eating and taking
up space, but you still must properly feed him, house him and take care of all his health needs. This can add up to a lot
of time and money. For the first couple of our goats keeping years we would drive as far as two hours, one way, over the mountains,
to breed our does. This was more cost effective at the time than actually having our own buck. But, as our herd grew, it because
obvious when it was time for us to get our own bucks (we started with two).
Just because he has a penis is not a good enough reason to
keep/buy a buck.
As stated above: "The buck is half your herd". You are basing
the future of your herd on this animal. You need to consider, will he improve your herd or will he have a negative effect.
Just making more kids is not enough. If you are going to keep goats... any kind of goats, with papers or no papers, there
is no reason why you shouldn't try to improve them. To improve your herd, you need a quality buck.
Where will you keep your buck?
IMPORTANT: We very strongly
recommend that bucks be housed separate from your does. This is the only way you can have control over your breeding.
If you "run" the buck with the does, you will have no idea when your does are going to kid. Due to this, you will not be prepared
for kidding and you run the risk of loosing the kids, because you were not their the assist if needed.
When you house the buck away from the does, you must provide
a companion for him, this can be either another buck or a wether. Goats are herd animals and it is cruel to keep one alone.
Keeping a lone buck can also lead to "cranky buck syndrome".
Do you want papers?
Many people do not care whether their buck is registered or
not. This is a personal choice. The first year we kept a buck, we did not worry about a buck having papers, and we have regretted
it ever since. Keep in mind, it takes just as much time and money to raise a registered goat as a non-registered goat, the
big difference is the price you will get for them when you go to sell them. You just cannot ask for, and expect to get, top
dollar for a goat without papers.
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Should you get more than one?
It sound extravagant, but to avoid Inbreeding, if you are going
to keep one buck, you should conceder getting two bucks (since the one will need company anyway). This way you are not forced
to keep breeding the same buck to all your does every year.
How to choose a buck to breed your does to:
What age can a buck breed?
Believe it or not, a little buck can, and will, breed a female
at 2 months of age, this includes his mother and 2 month old sister!
If you plan to use a buckling for breeding, we recommend that
you weight until he is at least 7 months old to make sure he is fertile and healthy enough to accomplish his task.
At what age should I remove the buckling from the does?
You should remove bucks from all does at two months of age (unless
you want everyone to get pregnant in a totally disorganized manner).
Neutering:
It is common practice to postpone neutering
as long as possible to allow the wether's urethra to grow as a prevention measure against "stones". We neuter our male kids
at 4 weeks of age. We never neuter earlier than three weeks of age. Please read the information provided here:
How to restrain the kid for neutering:
The kid is held by an assistant who holds the kid in his lap.
The assistant should grasps the kid's hind and front legs of the same side with each hand. The kid will be in a human-like
"sitting" position with it's back to the assistant and his butt is cradled in the assistants thighs.
There are three ways of neutering a buckling: "Cutting",
"Banding" and using a "Burdizzo".
Cutting:
This entails cutting the bottom of the scrotum off
and pulling out the testicles. Pros: Most reliable method; Inexpensive. Cons: Cutting the scrotum opens
the door to infection and tetanus. Definitely not for the squeamish Notes: Kids with a scrotal hernia should not
be castrated by the cutting method. Care should be taken not to excite kids before or immediately after castration. Materials
needed: A sharp knife or scalpel, soap and water, disinfectant, syringes and tetanus antitoxin. Age
of kid: Any time after the testicles descend. Note: Extreme care must be taken when "cutting" older bucks because
of the possibility of bleeding to death. Bucks over month old should be "cut" only by a vet, or experienced breeder, while
under anesthesia. Technique:
- We recommend you administer something to help with pain.This
is the humane thing to do to help the kid deal with the pain of the procedure. You could use:
- Banamine - give the
kid a shot 1/2 hour before you neuter. It will also aid in reducing swelling as well as makes the kid just a little easier
to hold. - OR -
- Ow-ese Herbal Tincture
- aids with stress and well as pain and inflammation. Give about 1/2 - 1 hour before proceedure.
- Begin by washing your hands and instruments thoroughly with
soap and water and then disinfectant. Wash the scrotum and disinfect.
- Restrain the kid.
- Push the testes up out of the way and cut off the lower 1/3
of the scrotum with a cut parallel to the ground. The testes should now be visible.
- Using your fingers, grasp one of the testis and pull downward.
The testes are very slick and difficult to hold onto, so grasp firmly. Do not to allow the testis or spermatic cord to go
back up into the scrotum once you have touched it as this will increase chances of infection.
a. In young kids (less than 4 or 5 weeks) pull down firmly, but steadily until the cord breaks.
b. In older kids or adults, instead of pulling the cord, use the knife or scalpel to sever the cord. Do not cut the cord
cleanly, instead scrape it until it abrades through. Because the spermatic cord contains many blood vessels, a clean cut could
cause excessive blood loss.
- If a segment of the spermatic cord is protruding below the
cut scrotum, it must be removed. If left exposed, it will act as a wick to pull bacteria into the body cavity and cause infection.
Pull it free or abrade it with the knife.
- Apply antiseptic to the castration site and administer an injection
of tetanus antitoxin.
Banding (elastrator):
This entails using a tool called an elastrator to put special
heavy duty little rubber bands around the scrotum leading to the testicles. The blood circulation stops and in about 10 to
14 days, the scrotum and testes will slough off. (I laymen's terms: the scrotum and testes die, rot and eventually fall off).
Pros: Inexpensive Cons: Least
humane way of neutering; faulty castration technique results in retention of one testicle. Risk of tetanus. Notes:
Some European countries have banned elastic band castration because officials consider it's use inhumane. I personally
I feel banding is extremely inhumane. I strongly urge people to have compassion for the animal and not to use this method.
Imagine putting a rubber band around your finger and then leaving it there until your finger fell off. Now imagine putting
a rubber band around you own testicles and leaving it there until your tentacles died, rotted and fell off. Animals feel just
as much pain as you would, and it is just as traumatic for them as it would be for you. Materials needed: Elastrator
(instrument used to apply the bands), Castrating bands or rings (Do not use household rubber bands!) and tetanus antitoxin. Age
of kid: Any time after the testicles descend. Technique: .....
Note: I provide as much information on this site as possible
so that people can make their own choices about how they wish to raise their own animals. But, I have come to the conclusion
that I feel banding is so wrong and I am no longer going to provide the instructions on how to do it here on my site. I am
a strong advocate of animals rights and of the compassionate treatment of all living creatures and I cannot bare the thought
that information I provided would cause a living creature so much suffering. Just because it is inexpensive and relatively
easy to do for the human, does not justify it as a right way to treat an animal.
Burdizzo (aka: Emasculatome; variation:
Ritchey Nipper): (This is the method we use to neuter.)
The emasculatome , Burdizzo or Ritchey Nipper, method involves
a clamp-like tool which crushes the spermatic cord and blood vessels leading to the testicles. The effect is to prevent blood
reaching the testicles so that they gradually wither away and die. This method is known as a "bloodless" method since no cutting
is done and when done properly the skin is not even broken. Care must be taken to be sure that both cords have been properly
crushed. It is quick, and while it is not painless, the kid is up and moving with the herd right away (though he may "mince"
a little). The kid is totally recovered by the next day, though there will be some swelling. We have been extremely successful
using this tool, but you should check the testicles in about 3-4 weeks to make sure they are no longer growing.
The wether will always have his scrotum (I call it his "souvenir"), but his testicles will stop growing, and eventually disappear.
After 4 weeks the testicles should be very small and hard. If they are the same size or bigger than they were when you neutered
him, you must reneuter. Pros: Quick recovery; No chance of infection or tetanus since there is no cutting or blood
involved; Relatively humane as these things go. Cons: The tool can be expensive but you can find a good price if
you shop around ($39-$107) - This is a precision surgical instrument; hence the higher cost. Age of kid:
4 weeks - 4 months or even older. We neuter at 4 weeks of age. Notes: Make sure to check the kid in a about
3-4 weeks after the procedure to make sure he has been properly neutered. The testicles should be firmer and not any bigger
than they were when you neutered. By 8 weeks, if he was neutered at 4 weeks of age, the testicles should be small and hard.
If you feel a large testicle, he will have to be re-castrated. The longer you wait to neuter (the older the kid is); the longer
it will take for the testicles to get smaller. The most important thing to look for is that they are not getting any bigger.
Materials needed:
9" Burdizzo (small)/ Emasculatome
- The best price I have found is at PBS Livestock and Jeffers. Note: There are two to three sizes of this tool, you want the small one (9"). The smaller
size is a "one handed" instrument that can be used for all ages (and breeds) of goats and also young calves. You can use the
small tool to do adult goats. The larger size tool (14"-18") is for older calves and cattle, must be used with two hands,
and is too big to use properly on goats.
Ritchey Nipper - There is also
a slightly differently designed version of this tool called the Ritchey Nipper available at Premier1Supplies. I have this tool as well and it works quite well. This biggest problem is that it seems to be currently
unavailable anywhere.
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